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 | I feel bad that she puts so much work into these videos visually and i almost exclusively listen to them as podcasts Комментарий от : @Tapiokapuddin |
 | 42:00 you should've used this look for your twilight video too! Комментарий от : @AshkanPacino13 |
 | ❤❤❤ Комментарий от : @elizabethviesca |
 | You know a social commentary documentary is good when you just casually bring it up to listen to in the background for entertainment reasons even 4 years after it came out lol. Комментарий от : @korvet8482 |
 | Damn she always goes all out haaha Комментарий от : @xxsnow_angelxx3953 |
 | 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Комментарий от : @shaiyannemall20 |
 | 6:27 Donatella VERSACE 💜 Комментарий от : @renamedanglerfishwholivesi3424 |
| ❤❤❤❤ Комментарий от : @shaiyannemall20 |
 | Rewatching this video because I love you, but also I know those stairs! Комментарий от : @user-tw8qk4dp8l |
 | Watching this after watching The Oldest View is an experience Комментарий от : @WiIIowisp |
 | 30:38 i’m glad you’re still here, still you Комментарий от : @zans3415 |
 | Sorry for the delay plz Chewbacca with all due respect Комментарий от : @thomsurcorredor5904 |
 | "Camp" sounds a lot like cringe. Failed seriousness. Комментарий от : @joeo6378 |
 | 36:08 every time you do that I lose it 😂😂😂😂 Комментарий от : @glrbuildersinc.8666 |
 | You liked the gemstones over the fossils? Wow, you truly are a woman Комментарий от : @bruhfvdf3145 |
 | Oh I'm good thanks for asking! Комментарий от : @meemkoo |
 | The ratatat Hitchcock references are just the tip of your brilliance 🎉 Комментарий от : @annabagwell7965 |
 | Shut up Meg. Комментарий от : @Ironbattlemace |
 | Oscar Wilde was Irish, not English. Комментарий от : @unicycleman666 |
 | By and large, my favorite ContraPoints video essay Комментарий от : @palmtreebranches |
 | Hey how are you. I'm pretty new here and I watched your Cancelled video (I like spelling it with two L's because it makes me feel fancier) before watching this one. I think your perspective in all of your videos is so elevated from the average point of view. I LOVE the fact that you can dissect different or opposing points of view in the form of empathy, understanding, and explanation. For me, your videos are always a litter reminder to be a better person. Understanding what someone said or did and WHY they said or did that is a much more intelligent response than immediately succumbing to the mind and emotions by getting all in a tizzy. I would liken your channel to The Last of Us 2. Wildly criticized online by dumb doo-doo heads because it showed that maybe we all aren't the unwavering "good guy" we thought we were all along. You have to see where the other side is coming from so that maybe, were you in their shoes, you'd do the same thing they did. You do a fantastic job being unbiased in giving everyone a fair shot. Basically what I'm saying is I think your content is so inspiring and hope you continue to enjoy doing it even after some negative fallout. I especially love the continued joke in this video about how you were born in the 40's or w/e :) Комментарий от : @ericfrisbie4744 |
 | The demolished shopping mall reminded me of titanic's wreckage. It gave me that same feeling of decaying opulence. Комментарий от : @sameenshahid7457 |
 | Apocalypse is our modern version of gothism, from boomers to doomers Комментарий от : @sebpilon2895 |
 | Finance Stock Market Financial Advice Money Growth Bonds Banks Wall Street Stocks. Thank you for the financial advice! Great Video! Комментарий от : @jellyforjelly4609 |
 | 40:55 "Now, if inequality increases enough, I suspect the staining will stop." Yeah, we're definitely there now. Комментарий от : @rrioghnach |
 | i rewatched this 4 years after release and only now realized dan howell voiced the excerpt at around 21 minutes lol Комментарий от : @Ishuval |
 | This video makes me question the origins of my own taste - and distaste. Thank you for making me think. Комментарий от : @notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 |
 | BnP summer collection ... This just killed me 😂😂😂😂 Комментарий от : @samf.s.7731 |
| Wow I'm only 11 minutes into the video and I'm salivating at the quality of EVERYTHING she put into this. Комментарий от : @samf.s.7731 |
| Thats Wynn, as in winning, bitch! 😂 Комментарий от : @samf.s.7731 |
 | "is if rich people start behaving as bad as possible" 4 years later... Комментарий от : @zipbaf8841 |
 | I love her. (Gigi) walking in Walmart Комментарий от : @KurtisHord |
 | the maryland representation here tickled my deep buried homesickness in such a satisfying way 😭 Комментарий от : @color-modotti |
 | Great work! Just have to correct you on one point: Oscar Wilde was Irish Комментарий от : @drikki29 |
 | Haha you can hear in Lord Melbourne's quote how he's wary of the middle class coming to take his place. Комментарий от : @yan-amar |
 | 20:53 that's *Irish gentleman, thank you very much Комментарий от : @anthonyhayes1267 |
 | Maybe it's because it's 4 years later and in the middle of a money crisis, or because I'm from a different culture, but I have no respect for rich people who spend their money on needlessly expensive stuff, like a t-shirt with "supreme" printed on it for a thousand dollars. Buy fucking bread instead. In other words, I've already built the guillotine and am ready to use it. That means I have no respect for opulence. This video was not very relatable to me Комментарий от : @ferenccseh4037 |
 | Just watched this video 10th, 20th, 30th.. Or whatever time. It's so glam, and fun. But fun fact, I watch it again and again because I feel some meaning behind fun, but it's hard to acknowledge that through this glamour. To much humor, to much art. Also please don't judge my grammar, I'm from Russia, and it's not my best day for a long time. Комментарий от : @phoenix-ardjin |
 | Are we just gonna ignore the blasphemy of referring to Oscar Wilde - one of the world's most famous Irishmen - as an Englishman? Комментарий от : @elizabethwison-wood7911 |
 | Wilde forgot about those who find beautiful meaning in ugly things. I feel left out. Комментарий от : @Tohkar |
 | Hey sorry to bother but where is the best place to find the writings by terre thaemlitz? I'm a little lost when looking online and I'm trying to find the writings you referenced in the video. Thank you! Комментарий от : @idontevenknow9758 |
 | "Taste according to your social class" So true! From a young age you can spot exactly what type of style belongs to your social class. Exactly the right amount of mess, right amount of decoration, right colors, right garden. Комментарий от : @MissMoontree |
 | 5:48 called out ben for the rap 4 years early lolol Комментарий от : @ossumopossum |
 | "you learn taste according to the social class of your upbringing" girl 2.5 minutes in and uve dropped a truth bomb on me already!!! growing up i was poor as hell and anything not cool to my family was like literally anything above the cheapest version of things and im still trying to be like "no, these things arent too fancy for me if i can afford them" Комментарий от : @spades498 |
 | Oscar Wilde was Irish Комментарий от : @scarletharlot69 |
 | I love the 7 chapters -- Like the 7 Sins! Комментарий от : @antropofilia1318 |
 | "I know you think I'm bougie and you're here to take me to the guillotine" :( Комментарий от : @electric_whelk1653 |
 | There is a study, that shows, that conservative people, if they don't like something, feel more disgust. Left-leaning people feel more often outrage, aggression and pugnacity. Комментарий от : @Richrichy |
 | As a hs teacher who is currently teaching Gatsby…this video is amazing. ❤ Комментарий от : @12inter88 |
 | Is that monteverdi at 7:28? Комментарий от : @superduper5698 |
 | Let’s take a moment to acknowledge the children who cry for Natalie to be cancelled who while meaning to “cancel” really only fuel her algorithm and platform her even more. We Stan Комментарий от : @Haffmatthew |
 | It is a beautiful and brilliant essay though Комментарий от : @cathyharper5705 |
| Youtube, Instagram, Twitter, Amazon, Ebay ... Now the means of production = the means of marketing/distribution ... sorry Комментарий от : @cathyharper5705 |
 | Not a native english speaker here, wtf does 'gorg' mean Комментарий от : @valardohaeriz5163 |
 | 21:00 Oscar Wilde Комментарий от : @yourstepsister1088 |
 | Started this video not knowing what the word "opulence" means. Finished amazed by how well you analyzed this concept and connected it to so many seemingly unrelated topics. Комментарий от : @Ashlett337 |
 | Frank Zappa is definitely coward camp. Every good riff he has ends with some dumb ironic kazoo noise Комментарий от : @MrAllallalla |
 | Your videos have changed quite a bit! Love to see your progress through the years. ❤️ The message and quality thankfully have remained as high as ever xx Комментарий от : @eldritchmonsterofnorfolk7253 |
 | This is a masterpiece Комментарий от : @meomniscient9558 |
 | You know, in this idea of gothic aesthetic as decayed/dead opulence, I think it's also important to note where current gothic subculture and aesthetics derived from. As with most alternative subcultures, goth was born out of the many derivatives of rhe 70s punk movement, which was not only born out of poverty, but FLAUNTED it. The leather vests and patchy clothes are integral to the classic look because that's what was cheap, reliable and available. It rejects the notion of performing class altogether, in favor of an outright statement of "not only am I poor, but I refuse to pretend I'm not." It's almost like a counterspell to the glamour of opulence. And after punk came many breaks. The riot grrrl movement was the rejection of both misogyny within the larger punk world, and the idea that feminity as an aesthetic had to be quiet and demure. The goths took up the mantles of vampires and dead aristocrats as not just class commentary but as a warning to not become the monster we seek to destroy. The emo and scene movements were launched after the turn of the millennium not only because of that slow shock that commenter mentioned about said turn, but because people sought to scream such feelings and more into a void that actually listened back. But all of these movements (and more that I didn't mention) are fundamentally impoverished, collectivist, and anti-capitalist. They are, as a concept, a rejection of the idea that being rich and opulent is even a good thing at all. They refuse to look the part of a temporarily embarrassed million/billionaire. They embrace community and supporting people, unlike the ideal of the individual struggle against the wealth and class heirarchy. But most importantly, they want things to change, not just because they as an individual have it bad, but because EVERYONE has it bad. In the American dream, you only make it because you rose up above the rest. But alternative subcultures ask "but why did you have to rise in the first place?" Комментарий от : @magicrainbowkitties1023 |
 | This is just art and omg Natalie gorgeous Комментарий от : @user-cd1vi4gh6m |
 | fridge genius from four years later... dead malls as the new goth? mall... goth? Комментарий от : @radioserrelind |
 | About the aesthetic of decay, speaking now in 2023: People have commented on how accurate her prediction for the aesthetic of urban decay was (e.g. liminal spaces). I'd like to add to it the revival of Wave and goth music, which to my knowledge kicked off by the memetic popularity of the band Molchat Doma on Tiktok, and with it, the aesthetics of the 70s-90s Soviet Union, or what remained of it. The grey concrete brutalism, the crumbling facades of housing blocks twenty stories high, the glowing fluorescence of distant street lights... The sense of loneliness, absence of humanity, abstraction from anything living and feeling, speaks to people. As the capitalist system is slowly collapsing around us, we become reminiscent of the last time an economic system broke down, leaving only a carcass of isolation and hopelessness behind. Комментарий от : @neckpeck2738 |
 | Absolute masterpiece of a video Комментарий от : @Charlie_49 |
 | Iconic Комментарий от : @laurenwalker1048 |
 | QUÉ PUTA GENIA Комментарий от : @twbpy3908 |
 | You deserve some sort of big award for this. Rewatching this for the severalth time for uni. Комментарий от : @mima9277 |
 | 15:51, Adam neely? Комментарий от : @asgerhatten3450 |
 | Shout out to Natalie accurately predicting the rise of "backrooms" horror subgenre. Empty commercial spaces really are as haunting as she describes Комментарий от : @goldenalpaca3881 |
 | Truly fascinating and educational video. Just wanted to clarify that garmarye is a Scots word, not a "Scottish" word. Scots being a germanic language that's still used in Scotland today by Scottish people. Yes I said language and I will fight anyone who tries to say it's just a dialect of English, you are wrong. Комментарий от : @cally01 |
 | masterpiece Комментарий от : @oskarallen |
 | 44:48 ContraPoints literally just predicted the backrooms Комментарий от : @A.Mayflower127 |
 | When you said people like jeffery star i did a double take then realized the video was made 3 years ago Комментарий от : @unluckyomens370 |
 | 😂❤❤❤ Комментарий от : @ninadhairdresser2682 |
 | Paint on classical statues? Feathered dinosaurs all over again. Комментарий от : @lunakoala5053 |
 | Really interesting seeing the rise of things like cottagecore and these ideals of traditional “simpler” living styles Комментарий от : @haydenmccann6721 |
 | Honestly, Natalie, the only reason you deserved to be cancelled for the whole Buck Angel thing was because you didn't give Buck any direction on placing proper emphasis on the right words during the reading of the John Waters quote Комментарий от : @aetreides |
 | This right here is simultaneously proof that the YouTube algorithm is both bonkers and yet somehow perfect.... I have absolutely no clue how I ended up getting recommended this but I'm SO GLAD I DID Комментарий от : @ryanbowen4029 |
 | As a vegan, I feel seen Thank you for the disdain! Комментарий от : @anonymouslearner2454 |
 | What if the new "Gothic"is just like liminal spaces. Everyone loves the backrooms. Kinda the same feel of the dead malls. Idk what it means but something is there Комментарий от : @Kittypuppymeow |
 | In Germany, it‘s usually seen as rude to flaunt your wealth openly Комментарий от : @MaticTheProto |
 | I love contrapoints but the way she talks about Gay Men and Boys here is reminiscent of her earlier more explicit homophobic mockery of Gay Men and Boys. Комментарий от : @griffcook97 |
 | 17:06 I just realized that I listened to an American trans white woman explain to me what a Chinese 土豪 is. Regardless of culture, humanity is truly more alike than different. Комментарий от : @suyangsong |
 | Damn, Oscar Wilde was not English :/ Irish erasure once again... Комментарий от : @MaksoTheBass |
 | I doubt anyone will see my comment that’s coming 3 years late, but is there a link to the article she references for the definition of tacky? I would love to know if the author intentionally referenced a line from no exit by Sartre or if they simply are expressing a common thought in a common way (too common/simple/etc to be accused of plagiarism though, imho) Комментарий от : @catherinedoyle9390 |
 | Guillotines are such a neat statement of the French revolution. Executions were nothing new of course. They were a staple of public funded entertainment for centuries. The guillotine applies the rules of the industrial revolution to them though. It makes the noble art of beheading into a low cost, no skills needed, quick, efficient business. Not only is it sending the message that the prole are coming for the bougie, but that they are coming for all the bougie. And that the process will be like any other day at the factory. Комментарий от : @grillonbleu |
 | this is so well written!! Contra about the opulence of pretty crystals (1:58) "your nape hair stands on end and a tingle goes down your spine" Contra about the decaying opulence of abandoned shopping malls (45:41) "my nape hair stands on end and a tingle goes down my spine" Комментарий от : @selladore4911 |
| "i am but a simple queen longing for the pleasure of my childhood gems" 2:46 Комментарий от : @selladore4911 |
 | ❤ your channel. Комментарий от : @Sonder88 |
 | Great as always Комментарий от : @Sandra-lu3ri |
 | This is a long shot because it’s been years but does anyone know the musical piece at the very start of the video? I like the remix but I’d also enjoy listening to the original. Комментарий от : @declanhughes9896 |
 | Usury (charging interest on a loan ) is FRAUD!!! That's why everyone is struggling financially. Are we going to allow this scam to continue? Комментарий от : @sandrashane677 |
 | Dude, you are fucked, it’s coming for w Комментарий от : @natalyaazvedo4788 |
| You are disgrace for human being Комментарий от : @natalyaazvedo4788 |
| You are cencer to human kind Комментарий от : @natalyaazvedo4788 |
 | I didn’t know about the painted Greek statues Комментарий от : @darcipeeps |
 | UGH This video was a theatrical masterpiece. Комментарий от : @adamwise1111 |
 | This video was so amazing and I hate that it is waylaid by people who have all the time in the world to tear down people they share broad political goals Комментарий от : @canonicallytrans |
 | KENNEDY DAVENPORT KANT Комментарий от : @Lyle_Plays |
 | I just want boy milk and snuggles Комментарий от : @Mozzarellapumpkin |
